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		<title>By: Mason</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - Have you seen ANY of the Lions games this past year?  Martz said it himself, he would run the ball if he could.  The fact of the matter is/was, his team was trailing, and thus, HAD to pass.  Simple football math.  Down by 21 points in the fourth, go deep.

MajorNinerFan - Nolan is a great coach, you just can&#039;t see it due to this past season.  Since he&#039;s been here, he&#039;s gotten rid of all the mistakes from the past two HC&#039;s, got us a defense who can stop anything when they get some time to rest, and quality players both on and off the field.  While I do agree with you that Martz will end up being our next HC, I don&#039;t think it should happen.  Blame Norv Turner for last year, not Nolan.

As for Alex Smith, give the poor guy some credit.  How difficult is it to work for three different people in the same amount of years?  Watch the kid.  He has hints of Steve Young in there.  Now if we could just get an offensive line who could PASS BLOCK as opposed to only run block, we&#039;d be good enough to go all the way.

I say playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; Have you seen ANY of the Lions games this past year?  Martz said it himself, he would run the ball if he could.  The fact of the matter is/was, his team was trailing, and thus, HAD to pass.  Simple football math.  Down by 21 points in the fourth, go deep.</p>
<p>MajorNinerFan &#8211; Nolan is a great coach, you just can&#8217;t see it due to this past season.  Since he&#8217;s been here, he&#8217;s gotten rid of all the mistakes from the past two HC&#8217;s, got us a defense who can stop anything when they get some time to rest, and quality players both on and off the field.  While I do agree with you that Martz will end up being our next HC, I don&#8217;t think it should happen.  Blame Norv Turner for last year, not Nolan.</p>
<p>As for Alex Smith, give the poor guy some credit.  How difficult is it to work for three different people in the same amount of years?  Watch the kid.  He has hints of Steve Young in there.  Now if we could just get an offensive line who could PASS BLOCK as opposed to only run block, we&#8217;d be good enough to go all the way.</p>
<p>I say playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: indianajim</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>indianajim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys, I really appreciate the kind words.  

MajorNinerFan, I think Martz really displayed an almost Norv-like inability to manage an entire football team.  Norv seems to finally be proving us wrong, but we&#039;ll see how things go this season.  I prefer for Martz to remain behind the offense and practice his mad scientist ways within the confines of what he does best.

Mike Nolan is a much more balanced, more reasonable person than Martz.  Nolan has a better grasp on how to relate to everyone within the organization and the media.  Nolan is better at being a head coach than Martz.  Now, if Nolan is a bad head coach, then Martz is worse.

Thanks, HonoluluLes.  That&#039;s high praise!  I just try to have professional standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys, I really appreciate the kind words.  </p>
<p>MajorNinerFan, I think Martz really displayed an almost Norv-like inability to manage an entire football team.  Norv seems to finally be proving us wrong, but we&#8217;ll see how things go this season.  I prefer for Martz to remain behind the offense and practice his mad scientist ways within the confines of what he does best.</p>
<p>Mike Nolan is a much more balanced, more reasonable person than Martz.  Nolan has a better grasp on how to relate to everyone within the organization and the media.  Nolan is better at being a head coach than Martz.  Now, if Nolan is a bad head coach, then Martz is worse.</p>
<p>Thanks, HonoluluLes.  That&#8217;s high praise!  I just try to have professional standards.</p>
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		<title>By: HonoluluLes</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>HonoluluLes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much, Jim!  Of all the individual writers on &quot;the Dise,&quot; you write the most grammatical, thoughtful, and well-reasoned essays.  That was a well-reasoned reply to Steve&#039;s comment, too.  Bravo!  Here&#039;s hoping for improvement in the three woeful groups on offense, which will lead to increased efficiency from the non-woeful Running Back group, Gore and Foster and Robinson, which will help the Defense, which will propel us into the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much, Jim!  Of all the individual writers on &#8220;the Dise,&#8221; you write the most grammatical, thoughtful, and well-reasoned essays.  That was a well-reasoned reply to Steve&#8217;s comment, too.  Bravo!  Here&#8217;s hoping for improvement in the three woeful groups on offense, which will lead to increased efficiency from the non-woeful Running Back group, Gore and Foster and Robinson, which will help the Defense, which will propel us into the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: MajorNinerFan</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>MajorNinerFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, you are right on the money. My only regret is that the 49ers didn&#039;t fire Nolan and make Martz the head coach.  Otherwise, Martz will in all likelihood resurrect the offense, the Niners will experience great success and Martz will be offered a head coaching job.  Voila, five offensive coordinators in 5 years! Martz is a truly rare talent, unlike Nolan, and probably irreplaceable.  Oh well, enjoy this year and let the chips fall wherever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, you are right on the money. My only regret is that the 49ers didn&#8217;t fire Nolan and make Martz the head coach.  Otherwise, Martz will in all likelihood resurrect the offense, the Niners will experience great success and Martz will be offered a head coaching job.  Voila, five offensive coordinators in 5 years! Martz is a truly rare talent, unlike Nolan, and probably irreplaceable.  Oh well, enjoy this year and let the chips fall wherever.</p>
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		<title>By: indianajim</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>indianajim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said that Martz didn&#039;t pass the ball more than he ran the ball.  But a 59% to 41% ratio isn&#039;t exactly overboard.  It sounds relatively Walsh-like.  What he did do as a coordinator and his first two seasons as head coach, was continue to make Marshall Faulk an MVP-like player.

In 2004, Jackson&#039;s rookie year, Faulk had over 700 yards, and Jackson over 600.  That&#039;s 1300 yards by committee.  In 2005, Martz&#039; last season as head coach, Faulk had 292, Jackson 1046.  That&#039;s also 1300 yards.  You&#039;re right, he had Jackson and Faulk on the team and he &lt;i&gt;used them&lt;/i&gt;.

I also never intimated Martz was forced to throw in St. Louis.  Kevin Jones had 1,000 yards in 2004 because he was everything they had.  1,000 yards is decent in this league, not outstanding.  The Lions had Joey Harrington until 2006, so my argument is they were forced to run the ball until Martz and Kitna were there.

You are misquoting me, somehow.  I never said Martz was held back, I was saying he made use of what he had with his &quot;bookend&quot; receivers, who were not the players people normally associate with Martz.  In 2006, Furrey had 1,000 yards while Roy Williams had 1,300.  In 2007 the Lions receivers tallied, respectively, McDonald: 943, Williams: 838, Johnson: 756, Furrey: 664.  He was not a slave to his system.  He &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; adapt, making use of a different type of personnel.

You&#039;re right, Martz didn&#039;t really do anything magical with Kitna.  He simply knows how to make quarterbacks successful.  The fact is that Kitna never would have gone to Detroit if Martz wasn&#039;t there, because he knows what the coach does for quarterbacks.  The magic Martz worked was make Detroit a whole lot more of a contender than they would have been without him.

Kurt Warner fell apart because he got injured and Bulger came in.  He did just as well, and why not keep him in, because Warner was pretty old by typical quarterback standards.  If the talent level with Bulger was so much better, how did they win the Super Bowl in 1999 and not later?  The talent argument is very debatable.

I didn&#039;t rewrite history.  The numbers back me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said that Martz didn&#8217;t pass the ball more than he ran the ball.  But a 59% to 41% ratio isn&#8217;t exactly overboard.  It sounds relatively Walsh-like.  What he did do as a coordinator and his first two seasons as head coach, was continue to make Marshall Faulk an MVP-like player.</p>
<p>In 2004, Jackson&#8217;s rookie year, Faulk had over 700 yards, and Jackson over 600.  That&#8217;s 1300 yards by committee.  In 2005, Martz&#8217; last season as head coach, Faulk had 292, Jackson 1046.  That&#8217;s also 1300 yards.  You&#8217;re right, he had Jackson and Faulk on the team and he <i>used them</i>.</p>
<p>I also never intimated Martz was forced to throw in St. Louis.  Kevin Jones had 1,000 yards in 2004 because he was everything they had.  1,000 yards is decent in this league, not outstanding.  The Lions had Joey Harrington until 2006, so my argument is they were forced to run the ball until Martz and Kitna were there.</p>
<p>You are misquoting me, somehow.  I never said Martz was held back, I was saying he made use of what he had with his &#8220;bookend&#8221; receivers, who were not the players people normally associate with Martz.  In 2006, Furrey had 1,000 yards while Roy Williams had 1,300.  In 2007 the Lions receivers tallied, respectively, McDonald: 943, Williams: 838, Johnson: 756, Furrey: 664.  He was not a slave to his system.  He <i>did</i> adapt, making use of a different type of personnel.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Martz didn&#8217;t really do anything magical with Kitna.  He simply knows how to make quarterbacks successful.  The fact is that Kitna never would have gone to Detroit if Martz wasn&#8217;t there, because he knows what the coach does for quarterbacks.  The magic Martz worked was make Detroit a whole lot more of a contender than they would have been without him.</p>
<p>Kurt Warner fell apart because he got injured and Bulger came in.  He did just as well, and why not keep him in, because Warner was pretty old by typical quarterback standards.  If the talent level with Bulger was so much better, how did they win the Super Bowl in 1999 and not later?  The talent argument is very debatable.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t rewrite history.  The numbers back me up.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon - you act like Martz was somehow forced to pass the ball that much.  The guy had Stephen Jackson AND Marshall Faulk on the roster in STL.  In Detroit, Kevin Jones was coming off an injury-shortened sophomore campaign where he had been the focus of every opposing team&#039;s game plan when Matz arrived in Detroit, but he had been a 1,000 yard back his rookie year.  In fact, Lions fans used essentially the same argument you are using when Martz got there - namely that he was somehow forced to throw the ball by STL&#039;s roster and he would really open things up for Kevin Jones on the ground in Detroit.  How&#039;d that work out for them?

Next, you say he&#039;s not a slave to his system and then act like he was somehow held back by having two big &quot;book end&quot; WR&#039;s in Detroit.  So apparently he&#039;s not a slave to his system, he just can&#039;t adapt it to utilize guys like Roy Williams and Charles Johnson?  Sounds logical.

Since, 1999 Mike Martz has passed the ball a minimum of 59% of the time.  Thats FAR more than the rest of the league.  Put any other coordinator in those jobs - would they have done the same thing?  Or is it possible Martz just prefers passing the ball?

Martz didn&#039;t work any &quot;magic&quot; on Jon Kitna.  Kitna put up those stats based on sheer volume.  Plug any QB into an offense that throws that much and you will see their numbers go up.  Its not &quot;magic&quot; - its &quot;math&quot;.  

As for Bulger and Warner - its true that Warner made MVP under Martz, but he also fell apart under Martz.  If the rise is all Martz, than so is the fall.  Bulger&#039;s stats were higher under Martz because the overall talent level was higher and because they threw the ball so much.  This isn&#039;t rocket science.

If you want to argue that Martz will change his tune in SF, than just argue that.  But don&#039;t re-write history to make your case, it doesn&#039;t suit you.  I thought you were better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon &#8211; you act like Martz was somehow forced to pass the ball that much.  The guy had Stephen Jackson AND Marshall Faulk on the roster in STL.  In Detroit, Kevin Jones was coming off an injury-shortened sophomore campaign where he had been the focus of every opposing team&#8217;s game plan when Matz arrived in Detroit, but he had been a 1,000 yard back his rookie year.  In fact, Lions fans used essentially the same argument you are using when Martz got there &#8211; namely that he was somehow forced to throw the ball by STL&#8217;s roster and he would really open things up for Kevin Jones on the ground in Detroit.  How&#8217;d that work out for them?</p>
<p>Next, you say he&#8217;s not a slave to his system and then act like he was somehow held back by having two big &#8220;book end&#8221; WR&#8217;s in Detroit.  So apparently he&#8217;s not a slave to his system, he just can&#8217;t adapt it to utilize guys like Roy Williams and Charles Johnson?  Sounds logical.</p>
<p>Since, 1999 Mike Martz has passed the ball a minimum of 59% of the time.  Thats FAR more than the rest of the league.  Put any other coordinator in those jobs &#8211; would they have done the same thing?  Or is it possible Martz just prefers passing the ball?</p>
<p>Martz didn&#8217;t work any &#8220;magic&#8221; on Jon Kitna.  Kitna put up those stats based on sheer volume.  Plug any QB into an offense that throws that much and you will see their numbers go up.  Its not &#8220;magic&#8221; &#8211; its &#8220;math&#8221;.  </p>
<p>As for Bulger and Warner &#8211; its true that Warner made MVP under Martz, but he also fell apart under Martz.  If the rise is all Martz, than so is the fall.  Bulger&#8217;s stats were higher under Martz because the overall talent level was higher and because they threw the ball so much.  This isn&#8217;t rocket science.</p>
<p>If you want to argue that Martz will change his tune in SF, than just argue that.  But don&#8217;t re-write history to make your case, it doesn&#8217;t suit you.  I thought you were better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: indianajim</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>indianajim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ninerfaithful.  I hope I don&#039;t disappoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ninerfaithful.  I hope I don&#8217;t disappoint.</p>
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		<title>By: ninerfaithful</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>ninerfaithful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a dam good artical so much information...

i have watched alex for a lond time since living in utah and i know he will turn the corner this season he has so much abilty..... our offense sucked last season because if Jim Hostler  that guy better never come around again  indiana jim U the man keep these types of articals coming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a dam good artical so much information&#8230;</p>
<p>i have watched alex for a lond time since living in utah and i know he will turn the corner this season he has so much abilty&#8230;.. our offense sucked last season because if Jim Hostler  that guy better never come around again  indiana jim U the man keep these types of articals coming</p>
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		<title>By: indianajim</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>indianajim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow that&#039;s a good one.  Never heard that one before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow that&#8217;s a good one.  Never heard that one before.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gomez</title>
		<link>http://49ersfanboy.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/moving-forward-the-offense/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Smith is a bust! Mark it.</description>
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